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Joel kontinen: Lady Gaga: “I'm Teaching People to Worship Themselves”

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As reported in The Guardian, the diva, whom the paper calls the Billy Graham of pop, claims that she is not encouraging people to worship her. "It's more self-worship, I think, not of me", she says, “I'm teaching people to worship themselves."


I know this is from earlier in the year, but it's new to me.

I find the concept of self-worship to be interesting. It's basically declaring that we're all gods. Not being a part of any sort of organized religion, I don't find the concept to be all that bad, it reminds me of some pagan beliefs.

I think what she's hoping is that she can instill some self-esteem into her fans, and I think that's a good thing, at least the intention is good. I think it could lead to people being narcissistic.

However, I imagine that a Christian viewpoint of this would be very negative all the way around, possibly even satanic.

What do you think?

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I'd like to respond to this in a way that might surprise you, but I need to go to work. Soon though.

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So basically, when you look through The Bible, you will eventually see that we are created by the ultimate force, and in such a way that indeed He wants us to see ourselves as "little gods". If God's creation of Man is The Apple of His Eye, you can imagine He put some pride into it. So much so that He wants us to have the revelation that we are gods.

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Very interesting, I had never heard that before. That's very cool :)

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Hackfest wrote:
So basically, when you look through The Bible, you will eventually see that we are created by the ultimate force, and in such a way that indeed He wants us to see ourselves as "little gods". If God's creation of Man is The Apple of His Eye, you can imagine He put some pride into it. So much so that He wants us to have the revelation that we are gods.


Hehe, such a heretic. :twisted:

Even gods aren't infallible.

Jesus said the kingdom of heaven was within us, but the God of Abraham seems a bit jealous:

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22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.


I've always found the "us" in there interesting. Does it seem to anyone else that God (and the others?) felt a bit threatened?

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Threatened? No, I don't get that. But what if you were so Holy that anything next to you would burn if it had sin? It would be awful to not be able to have a relationship with the one you love because you were so good it would kill him to be by you.

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I was sort of joking. However, I don't see how eating from the tree of life and living forever makes you holy. If the tree of knowledge couldn't do it (by itself) I don't see how immortality is going to do it.

My whole point is according to the bible, Adam and Eve were thrown out of Eden because God (or Gods) were afraid they'd eat from the tree of life next and then really be like the gods.

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